Updated BBC Micro .MMB released

[Higgy]

Hi all,

With the encouragement of forum member Alkadian, we have updated the .MMB to version 1.2.

http://www.stardot.org.uk/files/mmb/hig ... b-v1.2.zip

Added: Astroblasters from Retro Sofware - Disc 283
Added: Centipede from Retro Sofware - Disc 284
Added: Circus from Retro Sofware - Disc 285
Added: Frogger from Retro Sofware - Disc 286
Added: Carnival from Retro Sofware - Disc 287
Added: Phoenix from Retro Sofware - Disc 288
Added: Ripcord from Retro Sofware - Disc 289
Added: Scramble from Retro Sofware - Disc 290
Added: SpaceInvaders from Retro Sofware - Disc 291
Added: Sprint1 from Retro Sofware - Disc 292
Added: BBC Tetris from Charles Reilly - Disc 302
Added: Evil Influences from Bitshifters/Desire - Disc 304 (BBC Master)
Added: Fletcher's Castle from Fernleaf Educational Software - Disc 303
Added: Stunt Car Racer from Bitshifters - Disc 305 (BBC Master)
Added: Prince of Persia from Bitshifters - Disc 306 (BBC Master)
Added: Teletextr from Bitshifters - Disc 314 (BBC Master)
Added: Beep Step from Bitshifters - Disc 315
Added: Twisted Brain from Bitshifters - Disc 316 (BBC Master)
Added: Wave Runner from Bitshifters - Disc 317 (BBC Master)

Enjoy

[spikemorrissey]

Thank you for posting that.
I have some corrupted graphics with Price of Persia - any ideas why please?

[tontonkaloun]

Very Nice job !!!
Thank you

[cathode]

Nice one Higgy! Hopefully sorgelig releases my BBC micro sound fixes ported from MiST which these demos need to sound correct.

Here's the rbf anyway.

[NML32]

Thank you.

[Higgy]

Thank you for posting that.
I have some corrupted graphics with Price of Persia - any ideas why please?

At the moment it seems there are differences between MiST and MiSTer BBC Cores. Hopefully with this updated .mmb it gives a quick way to test if Core changes work.

I just checked and the 5 screens of Prince I saw were fine on MiSTer. You got 'Master' selected?

@cathode Nice! are your changes in latest MiST GitHub Core?

[Nat]

With the encouragement of forum member Alkadian, we have updated the .MMB to version 1.2.

http://www.stardot.org.uk/files/mmb/hig ... b-v1.2.zip

Many thanks for this, it's like being back in the old days playing on the Beeb in after school computer club

[Alkadian]

Thank you for posting that.
I have some corrupted graphics with Price of Persia - any ideas why please?

At the moment it seems there are differences between MiST and MiSTer BBC Cores. Hopefully with this updated .mmb it gives a quick way to test if Core changes work.

I just checked and the 5 screens of Prince I saw were fine on MiSTer. You got 'Master' selected?

@cathode Nice! are your changes in latest MiST GitHub Core?

I have also checked on my MiSTer setup and I confirm no graphics issues at all.

[KnC]

Thank you for the update
i was taking a look and i tried to load yie ar kung-fu and it says says missing files so tried yie ar kung-fu 2 and got the same is there a special way to load these games the other games i tried worked great thanks again

[Higgy]

@KnC thanks for spotting that. This error would have been on the original .mmb whenever that was created. There are so many games I don't think they have all been tested.

The disks are physically contained within the .mmb so I will try and get you some commands to type in order to run them and then get it fully working from the Menu in v1.3

[KnC]

Thanks for the reply there is no rush Higgy it is not like there is a lack of games to play on the MiSTer
But will look forward to the update at some time

[spikemorrissey]

Thank you for posting that.
I have some corrupted graphics with Price of Persia - any ideas why please?

At the moment it seems there are differences between MiST and MiSTer BBC Cores. Hopefully with this updated .mmb it gives a quick way to test if Core changes work.

I just checked and the 5 screens of Prince I saw were fine on MiSTer. You got 'Master' selected?

@cathode Nice! are your changes in latest MiST GitHub Core?

Thank you, selecting 'Master' did the trick!

[OriginalXOR]

Thank you for the update
i was taking a look and i tried to load yie ar kung-fu and it says says missing files so tried yie ar kung-fu 2 and got the same is there a special way to load these games the other games i tried worked great thanks again

Yie Ar Kung-Fu:
ESCAPE from the MENU (ESC)
*DIN 137
CHAIN "YIE_AR"

Yie Ar Kung-Fu 2:
ESCAPE from the MENU (ESC)
*DIN 136
CHAIN "YIE_AR"

NOTES: These need to be run in BBC MODEL B Mode, otherwise you get corrupted text & bad Health Bars
These seem to launch immediately and don't seem to give the intro to provide Key Guides

The '_' is the long line (Unshifted £), not the standard MINUS sign - it's the key next to 'RETURN' and above 'RIGHT SHIFT'
This does not display as Underscore, but instead as a long minus sign.

Yie Ar Kung-Fu:
Z - Left
X - Right
* - Up
? - Duck
RETURN - Kick
SHIFT - Punch
ESCAPE - Return to hi-scores
DELETE - Pause
COPY - Restart
While in pause mode, 'Q' and 'S' will turn the sound off and on.

Yie Ar Kung-Fu 2: (Same keys as above)
T - Replenish Energy

[lamarax]

Eeh, I'm pretty dum as it seems; where do I put the .mmb archive (I've tried inside 'games' folder -no go).

Please lend a hand, as I'd very much enjoy returning back to my youth with the beeb.

[with BeebEM, it was pretty much a question of copying an image of the DFS of your choice, and then chaining, or *running the image file of any program]

Can a 'hold-my-hand' guide be created for us clueless people?

Thank you!

[OriginalXOR]

All you need to do is rename the file so the extension reads VHD. Then the MiSTer can read it so you can mount it within the menus.

To make things even simpler and get your MMB to auto run when you launch the BBC Micro core then name it as 'BOOT.VHD' and place it in the 'Fat/Games/BBCMicro' (on your main internal card - the one on the DE10), as well as select Autostart. You'll need to save your settings to make this permanent.

If you dont want to use Autostart then hold SHIFT+CTRL+F11 to launch the VHD.

Hope this helps.

PS if you wish to keep the extension as MMB then you need to have these files on the Secondary SD card, the one attached to the IO board (if you have one), but simply renaming them as VHD and storing them in the usual 'Fat/Games/BBCMicro' (DE10 slot) works just as well.

[lamarax]

\o/
Man, I can't thank you enough for the clear and concise explanation!

Here, I bestow to you the esteemed Micro User 1st issue award :

[lamarax]

...keeb implementation for the beeb core, leaves a lot to be desired unfortunately

Anyone happen to have an overlay of an ANSI keyboard onto the [84-key was it?] BBC B one?

[Shuffle7]

Evening Star wonderful train simulator that you leave a demo run and it chugs along all the stations , great stuff !

[akeley]

Is there an easy way of making your own .mmb collection? Can I just add the disk files with MMBImager, or do I also have to create a new Menu?

[douglasamcintosh]

https://stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12073

There's instructions at the link above. I am hoping there is an easier way though as that is too much hassle for my planned project

[Higgy]

@akeley and Douglas it's a 'right of passage' to be able to update the menu

You can just copy files with MMBImager. There are loads of empty slots. Look at +320.
Then press ESC when the normal MMB has loaded and then it's *DIN disk number and *CAT

Something like that. My brain goes into BBC mode once a year

[akeley]

There's instructions at the link above.

Thanks, mate, but I had seen that thread earlier and it's the reason I asked here...made my head hurt
I guess it's not really as complicated as it seems, but to do what I want (sort games according to release year), it'd be way too time consuming, there are too many entries.

I've just tried to dump some disks into a vhd using MMBImager, and it does work. Thing is, you'd need to populate the mmb, then make a list of what's where, and then go through the *DISK / *CAT / CHAIN/*EXEC/*RUN routine for each game. A bit cumbersome, but it is a workaround of sorts.

EDIT: @higgy, only just saw your post, yeah I took your vhd, cleared it, and now keep it on the side in case i want to run stuff which is not on your collections. I'll pass on the menu for now

[lroby74]

Evening Star wonderful train simulator that you leave a demo run and it chugs along all the stations , great stuff !

I know this game like Southern Belle (played a lot on C64 and Spectrum) :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_ ... ideo_game)

[OriginalXOR]

Evening Star wonderful train simulator that you leave a demo run and it chugs along all the stations , great stuff !

I know this game like Southern Belle (played a lot on C64 and Spectrum) :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_ ... ideo_game)

Yes Evening Star was the prequel to Southern Belle, but SB was also released on BBC Micro (and Electron)
http://www.bbcmicro.co.uk/game.php?id=570

[lroby74]

Evening Star wonderful train simulator that you leave a demo run and it chugs along all the stations , great stuff !

I know this game like Southern Belle (played a lot on C64 and Spectrum) :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_ ... ideo_game)

Yes Evening Star was the prequel to Southern Belle, but SB was also released on BBC Micro (and Electron)
http://www.bbcmicro.co.uk/game.php?id=570

trains games was 2 then and not only 1!! Evening Star & Southern Belle!
I didn't knew it, thank you

[OriginalXOR]

trains games was 2 then and not only 1!! Evening Star & Southern Belle!
I didn't knew it, thank you

Think it goes without saying, but both are indeed available on the Higgy releases

[Count Duckula]

Thank you for this awesome collection, now I just need to try and remember the names of a few of the more obscure games I loved as a kid

[Hetzen]

I agree, a great collection. The Beeb was my first computer.