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At least three individual devs have expressed their interest at tackling these legendary cores (@nullobject, @Darren_O, and of course Jotego).

Darren seems to have advanced pretty deep into the v1 hardware already!

Let's motivate them people!
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Spaceships of red blue and green you'll hear the crowd of ladies scream WE WANT TRUXTON!
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i think nullobject and jotego have their hands full for a while,
and darren specifically said hes not planning on working on anything past zero wing.
(his zero wing core is more of a test/project in FPGA development).

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also, nullobject has a bunch of work left to complete the 1st gen cave titles,
and jotego is working on system 16 and then likely/hopefully PGM.

i do remember nullobject talking about making a toaplan v1/v2 core at some point, and he already has the boards to develop with.
however, at his current cave game's pace, were looking at late october or december before we see a complete-ish list of the 1st cave games.
at which point, theres no telling if he will continue to make FPGA cores immediately afterwards. he does good work, but its very far between updates from nullobject. i understand this is not his full-time job, so its not a big deal to me. im happy with what has been made so far.

now, jotego is a pretty fast developer. i could see him having a fairly complete toaplan core made in about that same time, if he starts soon.
but again, hes still got work on system 16, remaining CPS2 bugs, and his future core plans are being decided by his patreons/directors.
the next jotego core is very much a mystery at this point.
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I´m sure there will be a Toaplan core eventually. Let´s just be patient, it´s a matter of time.
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Hyper Space Squid wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:30 pm Spaceships of red blue and green you'll hear the crowd of ladies scream WE WANT TRUXTON!
Worth it just to listen to this alone! :3
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Hodor wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:11 am I´m sure there will be a Toaplan core eventually. Let´s just be patient, it´s a matter of time.
Jotego got the original Demon`s World pcb from me so I expect sooner or later he will start with a Toaplan pcb :)
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lamarax wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:14 pm
Hyper Space Squid wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:30 pm Spaceships of red blue and green you'll hear the crowd of ladies scream WE WANT TRUXTON!
Worth it just to listen to this alone! :3
I agree, this sound track is simply outstanding! And yes I would love to see this fantastic master piece on Mister at some point :mrgreen:
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Gyruss wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:16 pm
Hodor wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:11 am I´m sure there will be a Toaplan core eventually. Let´s just be patient, it´s a matter of time.
Jotego got the original Demon`s World pcb from me so I expect sooner or later he will start with a Toaplan pcb :)
That's fantastic news!! Thanks for your donation then!
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Truxton II would be very exciting since it only got ported to the FM Towns.

"I think Truxton could easily open for Def Leppard and I think even Def Leppard would have a tough time trying to compete with the enthusiasm that Truxton would bring to the crowd."
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Hyper Space Squid wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:18 pm Truxton II would be very exciting since it only got ported to the FM Towns.

"I think Truxton could easily open for Def Leppard and I think even Def Leppard would have a tough time trying to compete with the enthusiasm that Truxton would bring to the crowd."
Agreed, Tatsujin Oh (Truxton 2) should be first on the list for Toaplan core(s).
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Tatsujin Oh is in fact the game that I sent to nullobject, so it's the most likely candidate for the first Toaplan V2 release.
If any FPGA dev wants to borrow a Truxton PCB, I'm open to help.
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Are all of the TOAPLAN games on unique boards, or would one core support several titles?
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moonscience wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:45 pm Are all of the TOAPLAN games on unique boards, or would one core support several titles?
I believe the (or some) Raizing boards have extra chips, but I could be wrong.
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Are all of the TOAPLAN games on unique boards, or would one core support several titles?
TOAPLAN SLAPFIGHT HARDWARE
Get Star / Guardian
Performan
Slap Fight / Alcon
Tiger Heli

TOAPLAN TWIN COBRA HARDWARE
Flying Shark / Hishou Zame / Sky Shark
Twin Cobra / Kyukyoku Tiger
Gulf War II

TOAPLAN VERSION 1 HARDWARE
Demon's World / Horror Story
Fire Shark / Same! Same! Same!
Hellfire
Out Zone
Rally Bike / Dash Yarou
Truxton / Tatsujin
Vimana
Zero Wing

TOAPLAN VERSION 2 HARDWARE
Armed Police Batrider
Batsugun
Batsugun - Special Version
Battle Bakraid
Battle Bakraid - Unlimited Version
Battle Garegga
Battle Garegga - New Version
Battle Garegga - Type 2
Dogyuun
FixEight
Ghox
Grind Stormer / V-Five
Kingdom Grandprix / Shippu Mahou Daisakusen
Knuckle Bash
Pipi & Bibis / Whoopee!!
Snow Bros. 2 - With New Elves / Otenki Paradise
Sorcer Striker / Mahou Daisakusen
Teki Paki
Truxton II
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TOAPLAN VERSION 2 HARDWARE

oooof if that would be developed i no longer need any other games anymore :D
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Well that's definitely better than each game being on its own board! Version 2 would definitely be a dream, but I'd still be thinking about that version 1 and twin cobras board...
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I think I'd take Version 2 over pretty much any other arcade board. Even if it was just able to run Batsugun, Truxton 2 and Batrider.
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Some great news:

A Raizing specific [i.e. Toaplan v2 hardware] core seems to be already underway! \o/
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lamarax wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:21 pm Some great news:

A Raizing specific [i.e. Toaplan v2 hardware] core seems to be already underway! \o/
Awesome news, thanks for sharing! Looking forward to it!
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very cool

mind you, this is someone who is delving into FPGA core creation as a hobby,
but its still exciting to see this core getting made
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PikWik wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:12 pm very cool

mind you, this is someone who is delving into FPGA core creation as a hobby,
but its still exciting to see this core getting made
Aren't all most doing it as a hobby though? Beginners to experts alike. Or are you alluding to Kevtris? ;)
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I am finishing Konami's Kicker schematics next week. Toaplan schematics for the Twin Cobra PCB are next.

I am trying to include extracted schematics as part of core releases. Schematics ar good for preservation, repairing and also to allow others to check whether the FPGA implementation is accurate. The first system for which I released schematics was Exed Exes. The schematics revealed a few hardware features which apparently the software didn't use.
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Cool Flying shark is coming 😜
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Hi Jotego, and thank you for your great work !
For my information, what is your usual workflow when developping a new core ?
Do you start from the original PCB, then draw the electronic schematics ?
I have an original Toaplan V1 board (hellfire) and decent electronic skills and equipement. If one day you need te check some signals, feel free to ask.
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Hi N.Master,

If there are no schematics available, I extract them from the PCB either fully or partly depending on the need. Measuring signals is very important too, particularly for custom chips. I have a Demon's World PCB at home from Gyrrus. The plan is to do that one after Flying Shark as they share some chips.
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Does somebody have success running Demon's World - Horror Story in MiSTer?

I just see the usual startup garbage and then the MiSter stays black. Might be broken at some point though.

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Same here. Seems broken atm.

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@amano

I can confirm this. I'm getting just a black sceen too. The toaplan core (Truxton 1+2) does have a very unsatisfatory sound emulation anyway up to this point (compard to MAME which sounds way more correct). But maybe the author of the core will come back to this one day?

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Hora Story/Horror Story is fixed now, thus update_all should pull in the fixed version now.

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