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Re: tty2oled Software Add-On with USB/SD Support (Show Text/Pictures based on loaded Core on Display)

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jawler wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:48 pm New game Finalizer Super Transformation
Thank you! Picture is committed and ready to get downloaded.
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Moondandy wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:34 amJT released a Beta for Cotton yesterday which has a note on the sheet about having an image but possibly needing a rename of the file, which would be worth someone having a look at.
Yeah, got Cotton at friday as I'm one of JT's Patreon since years. But haven't found an appropriate picture yet to work with...
I made a small update to the sheet, there is a collum. To the far right called "Text Counter" I am using to note if an arcade core has a Text file but not other image, to feed into the counter at the bottom, as I couldn't find a more elegant way to do this with the formula. The counter is now accurate at 19 Text only cores rather than 54 that it was before.
Great, thanks to our sheet-magican :)
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Moondandy wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:34 amJT released a Beta for Cotton yesterday which has a note on the sheet about having an image but possibly needing a rename of the file, which would be worth someone having a look at.
Nice pictures for Cotton found and committed (Mystery Google: one day you'll find nothing, the other day dozens of proper search results).
In the sheet you wrote that "Cotton.xbm Picture already available, needs to be renamed?". Do you have this picture at hand or where is it?

The internal naming of the core (and therefore the picture) follows MAME's naming convention. You can have a look at it's appropriate MRA file, which are freely available despite of core's status. Within the MRA is a tag named <setname> and that's the important thing you need for the correct name.
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I actually didn't write any of those comments about possible wrong names, I assumed it was yourself or Venice. It may be worth having a run through the ones that were commented in the image column and see if any seem off to you or are easily fixable.

Good effort on the Cores images! Literally only 3 playable cores left with a proper name that won't change, and they are all unofficial and a bit obscure:
DVK MC1201 (Russian computer)
Nand2Tetris (virtual computer)
Super Jacob (virtual computer)
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Nand2Tetris = Hack.gsc
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Very nice! That works really well in grey scale.
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Re: tty2oled Software Add-On with USB/SD Support (Show Text/Pictures based on loaded Core on Display)

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Blackwine is adding MRA support for Neo Geo.
viewtopic.php?f=25&p=36603#p36603

I guess this means images will ne needed for all these 149 MVS games?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neo_Geo_games
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Moondandy wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:46 pm Blackwine is adding MRA support for Neo Geo.
I guess this means images will ne needed for all these 149 MVS games?
You can assume that. Alas, a neverending task... :)
BTW: I've added a handful new GSCs: MC1201, dorodon, dotrikun, lagunar and Jukk@M's very nice one. Sheet also edited.
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Oh well, on the plus side there are a lot of good games in there to make images for - Metal Slugs will be fun. I went and added them all to the bottom of the sheet, these will presumably be added as MRAs very soon. Blackwine also added Super Xevious as well, but Patreon only for now.

With JT adding another 50+ alternates for the Sega 16 going to be a lot more arcade MRAs soon!

Thanks for adding those other images!
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Moondandy wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:36 pm Oh well, on the plus side there are a lot of good games in there to make images for - Metal Slugs will be fun. I went and added them all to the bottom of the sheet, these will presumably be added as MRAs very soon. Blackwine also added Super Xevious as well, but Patreon only for now.
Good boy. We'll see what's going on and I'm sure that Jukk@M has an eye on that also.
With JT adding another 50+ alternates for the Sega 16 going to be a lot more arcade MRAs soon!
Yes, but for the alternate MRAs see next upcoming message :)
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Update to the Daemon (tty2oled.sh):

The search routine now respects the slightly different core names of dozens of MRAs.
Example: You are playing Alien Syndrome from MRA Alien Syndrome (Set 1, Japan, S16A) [FD1089A 317-0033]. Alien Syndrome (the original core) is setting "aliensyn", but the alternate MRA is setting "aliensynjo" as core name - following the naming rules of MAME - so you'll get a text only output of "aliensynjo" as the is no appropriate picture for now. The new routine cuts down the core name until there might be a conformable picture of that name...means "aliensynjo" becomes "aliensyn" after a few tries - or still text only as a last resort.

Simple but effective. And no need to create dozens/hundreds of double/new/similar pictures for the same game - even though the possibility remains of course :)
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Arcade:
Metal Slug = Metal Slug.gsc ?
Metal Slug 2 = Metal Slug 2.gsc ?
Metal Slug 3 = Metal Slug 3.gsc ?
Metal Slug 4 = Metal Slug 4.gsc ?
Metal Slug 5 = Metal Slug 5.gsc ?
Metal Slug X = Metal Slug X.gsc ?
Nand2Tetris = Hack.gsc
Super Xevious = Super Xevious.gsc ?
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Jukk@M wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:40 am Arcade:
Metal Slug = Metal Slug.gsc ?
Metal Slug 2 = Metal Slug 2.gsc ?
Metal Slug 3 = Metal Slug 3.gsc ?
Metal Slug 4 = Metal Slug 4.gsc ?
Metal Slug 5 = Metal Slug 5.gsc ?
Metal Slug X = Metal Slug X.gsc ?
Nand2Tetris = Hack.gsc
Super Xevious = Super Xevious.gsc ?
Thanks again, mate! Nand2Tetris is already in tree. Are the others prepared for NeoGeo MRA and therefore with a question mark? We'll have to wait for news about that and it's naming scheme before publishing your pictures. Anyways, pack#10 parked...
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I just ordered a tty2oled PCB from eBay UK, many thanks to the person offering them, if he/she is on this forum.

Now I'm trying to decide on a display. Are there any preferred brands, display colors (lifespan?) or sizes, or ones that would be better avoided?
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I've got 2x TTGO T8 PCBs left - free to forum members, just cover the postage from UK =]
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LamerDeluxe wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:02 amNow I'm trying to decide on a display. Are there any preferred brands, display colors (lifespan?) or sizes, or ones that would be better avoided?
Any SSD1322 in any size should do a fine job. No preffered brand for now. Lifespan unknown as all displays we're using are still alive. Display color of your taste, but my personal favorite is "white" for it's strong contrast (in my opinion).
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venice wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:11 am Habe you checked the Gallery?
https://github.com/venice1200/MiSTer_tt ... ki/Gallery
Yes, multiple times :) I'm leaning towards green right now, but I wonder if it is a pure (emerald) green or more yellow-ish (towards lime). I would much prefer a pure green.
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LamerDeluxe wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:02 amNow I'm trying to decide on a display. Are there any preferred brands, display colors (lifespan?) or sizes, or ones that would be better avoided?
Any SSD1322 in any size should do a fine job. No preffered brand for now. Lifespan unknown as all displays we're using are still alive. Display color of your taste, but my personal favorite is "white" for it's strong contrast (in my opinion).
Thanks! That is good to know.

I was looking into the lifespan of the OLED pixels (hours to 50% brightness) and it seems like yellow is the best color in that regard. Though for how many hours a day it would be used on average, it probably doesn't really matter. And my case is acrylic 'looking glass' greenish, so yellow doesn't really match well.

I'm considering white as well, as it is such a neutral color for all the logos. Though I might not want to look at a pure white light source late in the evening.
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Good work getting started on the Neo Geo already!

So weirdly with Super Xevious, Blackwine has a space in the .mra filename
https://github.com/blackwine/Arcade-Xev ... r/releases
"Super Xevious.mra" - this seems to be the only .mra that does this, which I am wondering if it would cause issues. Might be worth asking if it can be a without a gap if it is going to cause issues.
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LamerDeluxe wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:46 amI was looking into the lifespan of the OLED pixels (hours to 50% brightness)
Right thought :) That's the cause why we have set the default contrast to 100 (of 255): it offers the best relation between contrast and lifespan.
I have a green 5.5" OLED in use and that green is "green" like Slimer's green as seen in Ghostbusters :)
I'll take some photos for you later in hope that might help you making a decision...
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Moondandy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:48 am Good work getting started on the Neo Geo already!

So weirdly with Super Xevious, Blackwine has a space in the .mra filename
https://github.com/blackwine/Arcade-Xev ... r/releases
"Super Xevious.mra" - this seems to be the only .mra that does this, which I am wondering if it would cause issues. Might be worth asking if it can be a without a gap if it is going to cause issues.
Great to hear! The space character is no problem...whe had that issue some months ago with another core's name and factored that in the Daemon already.
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RealLarry wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:11 pm
LamerDeluxe wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:46 amI was looking into the lifespan of the OLED pixels (hours to 50% brightness)
Right thought :) That's the cause why we have set the default contrast to 100 (of 255): it offers the best relation between contrast and lifespan.
Great to hear that! That will also make it a bit easier on the eyes late in the evening.
I have a green 5.5" OLED in use and that green is "green" like Slimer's green as seen in Ghostbusters :)
I'll take some photos for you later in hope that might help you making a decision...
I guess that is slightly towards yellow then, maybe like a grass green? Photos would be great, much appreciated.
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You could update the gallery with my new enclosure :

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LamerDeluxe wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:19 pm
RealLarry wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:11 pm
LamerDeluxe wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:46 amI was looking into the lifespan of the OLED pixels (hours to 50% brightness)
Right thought :) That's the cause why we have set the default contrast to 100 (of 255): it offers the best relation between contrast and lifespan.
Great to hear that! That will also make it a bit easier on the eyes late in the evening.
Yes, and even if it's too stressful for your eyes you can edit tty2oled.ini and set your appropriate contrast there.

I have a green 5.5" OLED in use and that green is "green" like Slimer's green as seen in Ghostbusters :)
I'll take some photos for you later in hope that might help you making a decision...
I guess that is slightly towards yellow then, maybe like a grass green? Photos would be great, much appreciated.
Here they are. There has to be another OLED in "unknown" color, but I don't no where it's burried in my lab...erm...
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Moondandy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:48 amSo weirdly with Super Xevious, Blackwine has a space in the .mra filename
https://github.com/blackwine/Arcade-Xev ... r/releases
"Super Xevious.mra" - this seems to be the only .mra that does this, which I am wondering if it would cause issues. Might be worth asking if it can be a without a gap if it is going to cause issues.
Ha! Just inspected these. Despite their filename (which are uninteresting for us), both are setting "xevious" as corename (see one of my previous posts about MRA, MAME and <setname>). So only one xevious.gsc and many xevious_altX.gsc possible (see USE_RANDOM_ALT in tty2oled.ini).
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Hi@all,
we have now 357 XBM Pictures and 510 GSC's.
Many many Thanks :)

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RealLarry wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:11 pm Yes, and even if it's too stressful for your eyes you can edit tty2oled.ini and set your appropriate contrast there.
Good to know that! That will come in handy.
Here they are. There has to be another OLED in "unknown" color, but I don't no where it's burried in my lab...erm...
Yellow? :D
Wow, thanks so much for that! That is a great comparison.

I see what you mean with the white display, it does grey scale really well and looks really clear. The green one looks like a nice shade of green as well, I like how it reminds me of old monochrome monitors. The blue one seems to have the least amount of contrast in your photos.
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Neo Geo MVS:
Alpha Mission II = Alpha Mission II.gsc
Andro Dunos = Andro Dunos.gsc
Art of Fighting = Art of Fighting.gsc
Baseball Stars 2 = Baseball Stars 2.gsc
Baseball Stars Professional = Baseball Stars Professional.gsc
Blue's Journey = Blue's Journey.gsc
Burning Fight = Burning Fight.gsc
Crossed Swords = Crossed Swords.gsc
Cyber-Lip = Cyber-Lip.gsc
Eight Man = Eight Man.gsc
Fatal Fury: King of Fighters = Fatal Fury King of Fighters.gsc
Ghost Pilots = Ghost Pilots.gsc
King of the Monsters = King of the Monsters.gsc
King of the Monsters 2 = King of the Monsters 2.gsc
Last Resort = Last Resort.gsc
League Bowling = League Bowling.gsc
Legend of Success Joe = Legend of Success Joe.gsc
Magician Lord = Magician Lord.gsc
Metal Slug = Metal Slug.gsc (Update)
Metal Slug 2 = Metal Slug 2.gsc (Update)
Metal Slug 3 = Metal Slug 3.gsc (Update)
Metal Slug 4 = Metal Slug 4.gsc (Update)
Metal Slug 5 = Metal Slug 5.gsc (Update)
Metal Slug X = Metal Slug X.gsc (Update)
Mutation Nation = Mutation Nation.gsc
NAM-1975 = NAM-1975.gsc
Ninja Combat = Ninja Combat.gsc
Ninja Commando = Ninja Commando.gsc
Puzzled = Puzzled.gsc
Riding Hero = Riding Hero.gsc
Robo Army = Robo Army.gsc
Sengoku = Sengoku.gsc
Soccer Brawl = Soccer Brawl.gsc
Super Baseball 2020 = Super Baseball 2020.gsc
The Super Spy = The Super Spy.gsc
Thrash Rally = Thrash Rally.gsc
Top Player's Golf = Top Player's Golf.gsc
World Heroes = World Heroes.gsc
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Really great Pictures, many Thanks again.
Are the Pictures ready to be used or do we have to wait until we know the correct Names (MRA-Setname/Corename)?

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venice wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:31 amAre the Pictures ready to be used or do we have to wait until we know the correct Names (MRA-Setname/Corename)?
We have to wait, unfortunately. I haven't seen any NeoGeo MRA's 'til now, so <setname> of them is totally unknown.
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