Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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Hi there,

For the PCXT core, I usually load CTMOUSE.COM (AKA "CuteMouse") which is the most known free mouse driver.
I don't care about it being free in the sense that it's all ancient software.
However, when I have it loaded via "LH CTMOUSE.COM" on AUTOEXEC.BAT, EDIT.COM (the classic editor that comes with DOS) hangs immediately when I run it.
So, is there a mouse driver without this side-effect? Any idea on why does it happen?

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Re: Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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What if you don't load it high but just start it regularly?

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Re: Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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vanfanel wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:49 am

Hi there,

For the PCXT core, I usually load CTMOUSE.COM (AKA "CuteMouse") which is the most known free mouse driver.
I don't care about it being free in the sense that it's all ancient software.
However, when I have it loaded via "LH CTMOUSE.COM" on AUTOEXEC.BAT, EDIT.COM (the classic editor that comes with DOS) hangs immediately when I run it.
So, is there a mouse driver without this side-effect? Any idea on why does it happen?

Not sure if this will work, but this guy claims to have it changed to support 8088 processors

https://github.com/davidebreso/ctmouse

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Re: Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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It's entirely plausible that this core crashes on 286 instructions. I'll try to dig up my old Genius mouse driver later today.

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Re: Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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Check my anonymous FTP for stuff:

ftp.area536.com/platforms/PC/TDC/Drivers/Files

There's a bunch of different mouse drivers in there.

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Re: Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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jordi wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:51 pm
vanfanel wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:49 am

Hi there,

For the PCXT core, I usually load CTMOUSE.COM (AKA "CuteMouse") which is the most known free mouse driver.
I don't care about it being free in the sense that it's all ancient software.
However, when I have it loaded via "LH CTMOUSE.COM" on AUTOEXEC.BAT, EDIT.COM (the classic editor that comes with DOS) hangs immediately when I run it.
So, is there a mouse driver without this side-effect? Any idea on why does it happen?

Not sure if this will work, but this guy claims to have it changed to support 8088 processors

https://github.com/davidebreso/ctmouse

Ah, good, but somehow it seems to need VGA, when running it I get:
"No VGA? Use older CTMOUSE if you need EGA RIL support"

@Bas: Aren't mouse drivers device-specific? Do you know which one would the PCXT core expect? I mean, what mouse model.

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Re: Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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Not really. Mice are quite generic, even the old serial ones. You should get lucky with an ancient Cutemouse. Unless you're doing something wonky like use an InPort mouse on real hardware, but that's not the case here.

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Re: Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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Bas wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:12 pm

Not really. Mice are quite generic, even the old serial ones. You should get lucky with an ancient Cutemouse. Unless you're doing something wonky like use an InPort mouse on real hardware, but that's not the case here.

The first version of CTMOUSE that works on the PCXT core is "CuteMouse v1.9.1 (2002)(Nagy Daniel) [Driver].zip" (the driver file is called "ctmouse.exe" from this version onward) but it causes EDIT.COM to hang.
Previous versions are .COM files and the CTMOUSEP.COM file should be used because it seems to be a PS/2 mouse, but these older versions don't work.

So, well, I am still looking for a version that works. What do you guys use? Maybe a PCXT with a PS/2 mouse isn't a time-correct computer?

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Re: Mouse Driver That Does't Make EDIT.COM Crash [Solved]

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Ah, mistery solved.
According to the core documentation in https://github.com/spark2k06/PCXT_MiSTer, the version to use is CTMOUSE 1.9, which is readily available in: https://github.com/spark2k06/PCXT_MiSTer/tree/main/hdd

But that's incompatible with EDIT.COM.
So I found MSMOUSE.COM, which is the Microsoft driver, and it works fine, both the mouse and EDIT.COM with it loaded.

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