First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:59 pm
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Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:15 pm
It's pretty awesome for a first release. I just have to get used to the gamepad. Keep up the great work!
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:12 am
Very Nice.
But is Q*Bert the same without the Votrax chip ?
But is Q*Bert the same without the Votrax chip ?
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:12 am
I more excited about this then anything else 
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:09 pm
This is fantastic news, it is one of the main classic games. I've just tried it and it plays really well. Only thing was that the aspect ratio was off. I've calculated a custom aspect ratio of 8:9 for it, at vscale_mode=0 and video_mode=8 (1080p), this also gives you perfect vertical scanlines.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:09 am
Looks like the aspect ratio got fixed already! 
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:09 pm
Awesome!
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:34 pm
I am having problems with this core. Upon loading nothing happens, the screen stays black. If I go in the OSD and switch the settings from Horizontal to Vertical and vice-versa there is some activity on the screen:
- When switching to horizontal a band of pixels appears briefly at the bottom of the screen, its height is about 1cm and its width corresponds to the height of what would be normally displayed.
- When switching to vertical a different band of pixels appears briefly at the bottom of the screen, its height is about 3cm and its width corresponds to the width of what would be normally displayed.
- If I wait 2 minutes the portion of the screen where the action should happen fills with some uniform color like a flash, the screen goes dark and after some time the fill usually becomes filled with the windows teal color, sometimes the teal color switches to lime. In the end nothing else happens.
I have 32MB memory if it helps as there is no memory requirements listed in the readme.
- When switching to horizontal a band of pixels appears briefly at the bottom of the screen, its height is about 1cm and its width corresponds to the height of what would be normally displayed.
- When switching to vertical a different band of pixels appears briefly at the bottom of the screen, its height is about 3cm and its width corresponds to the width of what would be normally displayed.
- If I wait 2 minutes the portion of the screen where the action should happen fills with some uniform color like a flash, the screen goes dark and after some time the fill usually becomes filled with the windows teal color, sometimes the teal color switches to lime. In the end nothing else happens.
I have 32MB memory if it helps as there is no memory requirements listed in the readme.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:35 pm
First of all thanks for the core. I hope that there will be a solution to flip the output so I don't have to play it upside down. Keep up the good work!!
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:03 pm
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:15 am
Out of this world 
Today I had to try something with the Vertex core with MISTer running only from the SD card; my previous test with QBert was when using a USB drive.
After my Vertex test and for no particular reason I tried QBert. As you can guess: no problem loading.
Ticket opened on GitHub.
Today I had to try something with the Vertex core with MISTer running only from the SD card; my previous test with QBert was when using a USB drive.
After my Vertex test and for no particular reason I tried QBert. As you can guess: no problem loading.
Ticket opened on GitHub.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:30 pm
The aspect ratio of games like this are 8:7 and 4:3 typically (now rotating that 90 degrees would mean they are actually 3:4 and 7:8 respectively). So if it looks better at 8:9, that's probably more of a subjective preference.LamerDeluxe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:03 pmSomehow the new aspect ratio looks a bit too slim, I wonder what it is based on. The 8:9 ratio I calculated to get integer horizontal scaling is a little bit wider and IMO better looking.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2o7t4dQEZTw/maxresdefault.jpg
Here's a picture of what it should look like for the high scores. If yours is more stretched horizontally, then it's probably inaccurate.
However it looks like the core is doing 4:3 over HDMI, which personally is wrong, it should be 8:7.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:47 pm
I've watched a few videos of the original arcade machine and I realize what threw me off. The cubes on the original game are just a bit too slim to be proper cubes. So 7:8 would probably be correct then, thanks for the information! I could calculate a vertical border size to get that and still have integer horizontal scaling for clean vertical scan lines.aberu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:30 pmThe aspect ratio of games like this are 8:7 and 4:3 typically (now rotating that 90 degrees would mean they are actually 3:4 and 7:8 respectively). So if it looks better at 8:9, that's probably more of a subjective preference.LamerDeluxe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:03 pmSomehow the new aspect ratio looks a bit too slim, I wonder what it is based on. The 8:9 ratio I calculated to get integer horizontal scaling is a little bit wider and IMO better looking.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2o7t4dQEZTw/maxresdefault.jpg
Here's a picture of what it should look like for the high scores. If yours is more stretched horizontally, then it's probably inaccurate.
However it looks like the core is doing 4:3 over HDMI, which personally is wrong, it should be 8:7.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:39 pm
We tried 8:7 with Alan yesterday and I added the diagonal joystick option. We will push another release soon.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:18 pm
Yeah, 8:7 looks perfect to me, I did a custom aspect ratio for the qbert core personally by adding something like this to the MiSTer.ini (can't remember and not being bothered to check atm):
And it looked exactly like the arcade picture I posted above.
For reference, many many classic games that were displayed on CRT's were actually being displayed in 8:7 instead of 4:3, just the output signal is 4:3 which is then stretched to 8:7. Some games were designed around this, some weren't, it's kind of a crapshoot so no rule of thumb applies. Where the different aspect ratio applies is often game-dependent.
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[qbert]
custom_aspect_ratio=8:7
For reference, many many classic games that were displayed on CRT's were actually being displayed in 8:7 instead of 4:3, just the output signal is 4:3 which is then stretched to 8:7. Some games were designed around this, some weren't, it's kind of a crapshoot so no rule of thumb applies. Where the different aspect ratio applies is often game-dependent.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:20 pm
Hi Pierco, I noticed vertical flip was added to Q*Bert and the option is there after updating my MiSTer but for some reason it doesn't work on my CRT, it does work on HDMI though. I checked another core (Moon Cresta) and vertical flip still works on that one. Any idea if I'm doing something wrong or missing a setting somewhere? Here's 2 videos if it helps, 1 of Q*Bert and 1 of Moon Cresta.
Q*Bert: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rsS-lE ... sp=sharing
Moon Cresta: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aVl0-g ... sp=sharing
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:27 pm
This will be fixed in the next release.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:38 pm
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:51 pm
I’ve got the same issue. Everything just boots to a black screen and no activity (MISTER menu works though). I’m using a CRT arcade monitor that works great for most arcade cores. Any ideas? Thanks!jca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:34 pm I am having problems with this core. Upon loading nothing happens, the screen stays black. If I go in the OSD and switch the settings from Horizontal to Vertical and vice-versa there is some activity on the screen:
- When switching to horizontal a band of pixels appears briefly at the bottom of the screen, its height is about 1cm and its width corresponds to the height of what would be normally displayed.
- When switching to vertical a different band of pixels appears briefly at the bottom of the screen, its height is about 3cm and its width corresponds to the width of what would be normally displayed.
- If I wait 2 minutes the portion of the screen where the action should happen fills with some uniform color like a flash, the screen goes dark and after some time the fill usually becomes filled with the windows teal color, sometimes the teal color switches to lime. In the end nothing else happens.
I have 32MB memory if it helps as there is no memory requirements listed in the readme.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:54 pm
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:46 pm
Hello,
thank you for adding the "vflip" option. In my case, it only works in the "vertical" orientation on hdmi. I use my hdmi output with a TFT that is turned 90° clockwise, so I would need the option also in "horizontal" orientation.
thank you for adding the "vflip" option. In my case, it only works in the "vertical" orientation on hdmi. I use my hdmi output with a TFT that is turned 90° clockwise, so I would need the option also in "horizontal" orientation.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:45 pm
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:22 pm
I would remove the rbf & mra files from the sdcard and run update all again. I had a similar issue but the update all fixed it.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:57 pm
Thanks, I removed both, ran the update all script and now QBert is loading. This is with the games directory on a USB drive.
In the end the problem had nothing to do with the USB drive.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:18 pm
Hello, I tried flipping the screen using direct video and it did not have any effect. Is this only for the scaler?
Also, how do you program the joystick for the second player? I want to use cocktail mode since player 2 is oriented correctly, but I don't know how to assign the joystick for player 2. Thanks!
Also, how do you program the joystick for the second player? I want to use cocktail mode since player 2 is oriented correctly, but I don't know how to assign the joystick for player 2. Thanks!
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:53 pm
I'm having similar issues with the Q*bert core as described above, with subtle differences.
Using a multi-sync arcade monitor, if I try to boot using vga_scaler=0, I get absolutely nothing on the monitor. Black screen, no indications that it ever switched frequencies, no "Out of Range" display, and also the MiSTer menus are not visible. I *can* use the keyboard to reboot the MiSTer, but that's about it.
If I set vga_scaler=1, video_mode=6 (640x480@60), then when I launch it for a split second I see Q*bert being displayed with the selected scaler configs, etc. but then it once again goes to a completely black screen, can't see the MiSTer menus, etc. as above.
I tried manually removing the qbert.mra and qbert.rbf files, and reset my update all and re-ran it, but no difference. FYI it downloaded the QBert_20210215.rbf file.
Any suggestions?
Using a multi-sync arcade monitor, if I try to boot using vga_scaler=0, I get absolutely nothing on the monitor. Black screen, no indications that it ever switched frequencies, no "Out of Range" display, and also the MiSTer menus are not visible. I *can* use the keyboard to reboot the MiSTer, but that's about it.
If I set vga_scaler=1, video_mode=6 (640x480@60), then when I launch it for a split second I see Q*bert being displayed with the selected scaler configs, etc. but then it once again goes to a completely black screen, can't see the MiSTer menus, etc. as above.
I tried manually removing the qbert.mra and qbert.rbf files, and reset my update all and re-ran it, but no difference. FYI it downloaded the QBert_20210215.rbf file.
Any suggestions?
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:24 pm
Sorry I’m late to the topic.
Thanks for all of the discussion around this amazing release! This is one of my all-tine favorites, and the experience with this core is just awesome.
Thanks for all of the discussion around this amazing release! This is one of my all-tine favorites, and the experience with this core is just awesome.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:06 pm
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:09 am
I need to recompile it.
Re: First Q*Bert Release
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:10 pm