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Screen tearing and frame skipping on Samsung QLED TVs

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:59 am
by jlancaster86
Following on from the Samsung TV discussion in this thread since it was getting off-topic. To quote myself in that thread:
jlancaster86 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:20 pm I'm not sure if this is related, but I've started having issues with my Samsung Q80T since it updated to firmware 2014.1 today. I had been using "vsync_adjust=1" just fine for the last six months, but now it (and "vsync_adjust=2") results in the frame skipping and weird tearing/ripples at the bottom of the screen others have mentioned in the thread. It seems "vsync_adjust=1" can temporarily work after some fiddling (like turning Game Mode on and off), but it looks like I'm stuck using "vsync_adjust=0" for now.
I've been doing some more testing (with "vsync_adjust=1"), and it seems that by turning Game Mode off and on again, the TV resyncs and the tearing and frame skipping disappear. However, this apparently needs to be done every time that HDMI input is engaged; switching to another input and back will reintroduce the problem, which can then again be fixed by cycling Game Mode again.

I've been testing mainly with the NES core, and it doesn't seem to matter if I cycle Game Mode while in that core or the menu core; the issue gets fixed either way (till the HDMI input is switched, of course).

This is most likely an issue with Samsung's firmware, and it's unlikely anything could be done about it from the MiSTer side, but I thought my findings might be useful to other users tearing their hair out.

Another tip: be sure to have "Game Motion Plus" enabled to prevent colours from being messed up due to screen dimming (it's really obvious in Super Mario Bros. when Mario is surrounded by black, like in the screen telling you how many lives you have). Everything else in "Game Mode Settings" should be off/0, though.

Re: Screen tearing and frame skipping on Samsung QLED TVs

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:26 pm
by darksakul
What model Samsung TV you have?

Re: Screen tearing and frame skipping on Samsung QLED TVs

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:30 am
by jlancaster86
darksakul wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:26 pm What model Samsung TV you have?
A Samsung Q80T.

Re: Screen tearing and frame skipping on Samsung QLED TVs

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:42 am
by darksakul
Whats the MiSTer output resolution set to?

I do know many of these consoles original hardware aren't a perfect 60hz or even 59.94hz (refresh of analog NTSC broadcasts.
Like the Neo Geo is at 59.18hz, the NES is at 59.826Hz,the SNES is at 60.08hz.
At least Dodonpatchi has a 60hz mode.

Re: Screen tearing and frame skipping on Samsung QLED TVs

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:55 am
by Hagiographer

I have a Samsung Q70 and experience this as well. It only happens to me when Freesync is set to "on" and I'm playing a game with a refresh rate under 59.94. So console PAL game, Robocop arcade core, etc causes the behavior. Normally not a problem but at least for the Robocop arcade core, when I turn off Freesync, I get a "Mode Not Supported" message on my TV with the VSync=2 setting.