MiSTer FPGA Forum

0x15e wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:25 pm I tried ScummVM once and once I was done with being disappointed, I had to nuke my sd card and start over to get it clean again.

The issue is that ScummVM is only a core in the loosest sense of the word. The reason it needs the script is that it has to install a bunch of Linux-side dependencies because...

It's just a Linux app with a MiSTer wrapper. And an older, more limited one at that.

It's not bad but it really is one of those cases where you'd be better off using a pi or pc. It's still a software-based VM interpreter and it's not really something that could benefit from an fpga anyway.

The mismatch is exacerbated by the fact that MiSTer has no package manager (by design, and the explanation is reasonable) so when that install script runs, it has to install a bunch of dynamically linked libraries and those aren't necessarily compiled for the same build of MiSTer you're running, which can lead to weirdness. And because those libraries were just copied over with that script, it's difficult to get things back in a known good state if you want to remove it.

For me, I just came to the realization that the kinds of games I like to play on MiSTer aren't the same kinds of games I'd like to play with ScummVM so it really wasn't a good fit, and more of a liability to keep installed than some other core I don't use might be.

0x15e wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:25 pm I tried ScummVM once and once I was done with being disappointed, I had to nuke my sd card and start over to get it clean again.

The issue is that ScummVM is only a core in the loosest sense of the word. The reason it needs the script is that it has to install a bunch of Linux-side dependencies because...

It's just a Linux app with a MiSTer wrapper. And an older, more limited one at that.

It's not bad but it really is one of those cases where you'd be better off using a pi or pc. It's still a software-based VM interpreter and it's not really something that could benefit from an fpga anyway.

The mismatch is exacerbated by the fact that MiSTer has no package manager (by design, and the explanation is reasonable) so when that install script runs, it has to install a bunch of dynamically linked libraries and those aren't necessarily compiled for the same build of MiSTer you're running, which can lead to weirdness. And because those libraries were just copied over with that script, it's difficult to get things back in a known good state if you want to remove it.

For me, I just came to the realization that the kinds of games I like to play on MiSTer aren't the same kinds of games I'd like to play with ScummVM so it really wasn't a good fit, and more of a liability to keep installed than some other core I don't use might be.

0x15e wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:25 pm Apparently I'm a master of lies and the behavior I observed when I tried it probably a year ago is nothing like what it does now. I don't think what I posted was particularly negative or anything but hey, who better to judge me than a rando on the internet?

• You don't need to "nuke" your SD card to git rid of ScummVM, which you stated (not once but twice) - you just delete the directory, then its gone. ALWAYS been that way...

• At the time of your post, the 2.3 build had been uploaded to my repo. I'm still working on 2.5, however 2.3 was the lower hanging fruit. (There is no 2.4 branch).

• Linux does not use "dynamically linked libraries", DLL's are a windows thing. Linux uses "Shared objects" , ".so" - You claim having these stock Debian built libs installed can lead to "weirdness", which is vague and untrue, as they reside in the ScummVM folder and are unused unless you are running ScummVM - you give no specific examples.

• You claim it is more of a "liability" then other having unused cores installed, however, yet again vague - and again no specific examples?

• You state games you like to play on MiSTer aren't the same kinds of games you'd like to play with ScummVM - then why did you install it? - seriously?

GhostofSparta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:44 amMaybe someone here has an idea what's going on or what I am doing wrong?

GhostofSparta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:44 am MiSTer is connected with the analog output to the Retrotink 5x and then to my LG OLED 48C2. I am using an external HDD on my MiSTer.

RealLarry wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:04 am Maybe @bbond007 need more coffee and some attention I had troubles installing his ScummVM 2.6.1 and found that there are issues in his installation script. I already opened a ticket about ths.

Malor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:12 pm That's a pretty unusual approach. Is the Retrotink faster or better than the Mister's onboard scaler?

bbond007 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:38 pm I probably had too much coffee that day... anyway, those specific error are fixed. Hopefully there are not many more