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Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:59 pm
by held
Just a quick question, I hope someone can answer.
What is the reason behind a full SSH package?
because dropbear does the same and is lightweight.
Thank you
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:10 pm
by FPGA64
No windows client as far as I can see
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:03 pm
by Solskogen
putty works fine with dropbear
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:29 pm
by amstan
How lightweight does this need to be really?
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:12 pm
by darksakul
held wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:59 pm
Just a quick question, I hope someone can answer.
What is the reason behind a full SSH package?
because
dropbear does the same and is lightweight.
Thank you
Besides being Lightweight, what are if any advantages?
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:18 am
by held
darksakul wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:12 pm
held wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:59 pm
Just a quick question, I hope someone can answer.
What is the reason behind a full SSH package?
because
dropbear does the same and is lightweight.
Thank you
Besides being Lightweight, what are if any advantages?
Afaik it has less dependencies and is easier to maintain
https://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html
So its definitely worth exploring if it has any advantages for this project.
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:53 am
by Solskogen
Do you maintain ssh on MiSTer?
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:07 am
by amstan
held wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:18 amit has less dependencies and is easier to maintain
That would be a problem if you were comparing the 2 in isolation. But I assume since there's already ssh implemented that cost has already been paid mostly.
The act of changing it now would count as maintanance, and worse: uneeded maintanance if you're unsure how much less maintanance there will be in the future.
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:02 pm
by rhester72
i do find it amusing that on one hand we have people who want full Linux so bad they ported Arch with a package manager, and on the other extreme we have the Dropbear / Busybox crowd. Can't win 'em all. LOL
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:39 pm
by Malor
Nobody has said this directly, but removing real SSH is not going to save a significant amount of space, and will increase the maintenance burden.
32 gig SD cards are under $10 now.
Re: Why a full SSH packages instead of dropbear ?
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:18 pm
by Mr. Encyclopedia
Dropbear is a cool alternative but I don't believe including the full SSH package imposes any limitations on the project. AFAIK there's nothing stopping folks from removing SSH and replacing it with Dropbear themselves if they're that dedicated to making the Linux side of MiSTer as lightweight as possible.