.VCD files
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:05 pm
I have a huge collection of VCD files. Will these be supported too maybe in the future or should i start converting them?
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Re: .VCD files
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:54 pm
I highly doubt the VCD format will get support any time soon, if ever. Your best bet is to convert to bin/cue or CHD format.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:48 pm
What is a .vcd file? I know what a VCD movie is, but I assumed that backups were standard ISO.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:41 am
Even if this would be implemented, it looks like that this need a bios version (SCPH-5903) which unfortunately has never been dumped - as far as I aware of.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:58 am
You are correct, i missed this one. It's a completley diffrent chip.
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SCPH-5903 VCD Video CD PlayStation
VCD Mainboard "PU-16, 1-655-191-11" Component List
The overall design is very close to LATE-PU-8 boards (1-658-467-2x). Changed
components are IC102/IC304 (different kernel and cdrom firmware),
C318/C325/C327 (height reduced capacitors for mounting the daughterboard above
of them). Plus some extra components: Three triple multiplexors (for switching
between PSX and VCD audio/video), and the daughterboard connector.
IC102 44pin SONY, M538032E-02, JAPAN 6465401 (uncommonly big BIOS, 1Mx8)
IC304 52pin C 4021 SC430924PB (HC05 sub-cpu, with extra Video CD command 1Fh)
C318 2pin S5 ;\tantalum capacitors with lower height (instead
C325 2pin CA7 ; of the electrolytic capacitors on PU-8 boards)
C327 2pin CA7 ;/
ICnnn 16pin 4053C (Triple multiplexor, for Audio LRCK,BCLK,DATA) (PCB top)
ICnnn 16pin 4053C (Triple multiplexor, for Video FSC,CSYNC) (PCB bottom)
ICnnn 16pin 2283 (Triple multiplexor, for Video R,G,B) (PCB bottom)
CNnnn 30pin Connector to daughterboard (PCB top)
VCD Daughterboard "MP-45, 1-665-192-11" Component List
IC102 3pin TA78M05F voltage regulator (7.5V to 5V) (Toshiba)
IC104 120pin CXD1852AQ Video CD decoder (Sony)
IC106 40pin MB814260-70 (256Kx16 DRAM) (Fujitsu) ;see also: IC114
IC107 20pin 6230FV 649 115 (OSD, similar to BU6257AFV-E2) (PCB back)
IC109 14pin Y2932 (TLC2932 PLL) (TI) (for RGB.DAC.CLK)
IC110 44pin TDA8771AH Triple Video DAC for RGB (Philips) (PCB back)
IC111 64pin CXP10224-603R 732A02E (MCU) (Sony)
IC112 14pin HCT32A (74HCT32 Quad OR gate) (TI) (PCB back) (for RGB.DAC.CLK)
IC113 8pin H74 7H (single D-type flip-flop; OSD clock divider) (PCB back)
IC114 40pin MB814260-70 (256Kx16 DRAM) (Fujitsu) ;see also: IC106
CN101 30pin Male Connector (to female 30pin socket on PU-16 mainboard)
X103 2pin 45.00MHz (for VCD decoder chip)
X104 4pin 12.000MHz (for MCU chip)
X105 2pin 28.636MHz (for VCD decoder chip) (8*3.579545 NTSC clock)
VCD Daughterboard Connector
.--.---.
GND / 1 2 | GND
(CXD1815Q.86) CD.BCLK | 3 4 | CD.LRCK (CXD1815Q.84)
(CXD1815Q.87) CD.C2PO | 5 6 | CD.DATA (CXD1815Q.85)
GND | 7 8 | CD.SQCK (CXD2510Q.67) CXP.31
(TDA.44) VIDEO.OUTR | 9 10 | CD.SQSO (CXD2510Q.66) CXP.29
GND | 11 12 | SIO.OUT (HC05.51.PORTF1 to CXP.47)
(TDA.40) VIDEO.OUTG | 13 14 | SIO.IN (HC05.50.PORTF0 from CXP.48)
GND | 15 16 | SIO.CLK (HC05.52.PORTF2 to CXP.49)
(TDA.36) VIDEO.OUTB | 17 18 | VIDEO.FSC (CXD1852AQ.95)
GND | 19 20 | VIDEO.CSYNC(CXD1852AQ.96)
(PSU.3) 3.5V | 21 22 | 3.5V (PSU.3)
(PSU.1) 7.5V | 23 24 | AUDIO.FSXI (CXD1852AQ.103 to VCD)
(PSU.7) /RES | 25 26 | AUDIO.DATA (CXD1852AQ.100)
(CXD1852AQ.102) AUDIO.BCLK | 27 28 | AUDIO.LRCK (CXD1852AQ.101)
GND | 29 30 | GND
'--------'
IC104 "Sony CXD1852AQ" (MPEG-1 Decoder for Video CD) (120 pin)
1-GND 16-HD7 31-GND 46-MD4 61-GND 76-G/Y3 91-GND 106-XTL2O
2-XTL0O 17-MA3 32-MA7 47-MD11 62-/VOE 77-G/Y4 92-HSYNC 107-XTL2I
3-XTL0I 18-MA4 33-MA8 48-MD3 63-R/Cr0 78-G/Y5 93-VSYNC 108-VDD
4-VDD 19-MA2 34-/RAS 49-MD12 64-R/Cr1 79-G/Y6 94-FID/FHREF 109-C2PO
5-HA2 20-MA5 35-/MWE 50-MD2 65-R/Cr2 80-G/Y7 95-CBLNK/FSC 110-LRCI
6-HA3 21-MA1 36-/CAS2 51-MD13 66-R/Cr3 81-B/Cb0 96-CSYNC 111-DATI
7-HD0 22-GND 37-/CAS0 52-MD1 67-R/Cr4 82-B/Cb1 97-/SGRST 112-BCKI
8-HD1 23-MA6 38-MD7 53-MD14 68-R/Cr5 83-B/Cb2 98-CLK0O 113-DOIN
9-HD2 24-MA0 39-MD8 54-MD0 69-R/Cr6 84-B/Cb3 99-DOUT 114-/HCS
10-HD3 25-BC 40-MD6 55-MD15 70-R/Cr7 85-B/Cb4 100-DATO 115-/HDT
11-HD4 26-TCKI 41-MD9 56-OSDEN 71-G/Y0 86-B/Cb5 101-LRCO 116-HRW
12-HD5 27-TDI 42-MD5 57-OSDB 72-G/Y1 87-B/Cb6 102-BCKO 117-/HIRQ
13-HD6 28-TENA1 43-MD10 58-OSDG 73-G/Y2 88-B/Cb7 103-FSXI 118-/RST
14-VDD 29-TDO 44-VDD 59-OSDR 74-VDD 89-DCLK 104-VDD 119-HA0
15-GND 30-VST 45-GND 60-VDD 75-GND 90-VDD 105-GND 120-HA1
The Hxxx pins are for the Host (the 8bit CXP CPU), the Mxxx for the RAM chips,
the R/G/B pins are 24bit RGB video. Pin36 can be /CAS2 or MA9 (and, the VCD
daughterboard has alternate solderpads for one large RAM instead of two small
RAMs).
IC107 "6230FV" (OSD chip, similar to BU6257AFV-E2) (20 pin)
1-SIO.CLK 5-VDD 9-TEST 13-BLK2 17-OSDG
2-SIO./CS 6-/CKOUT 10-GND 14-VC2 18-OSDB
3-SIO.DTA 7-OSCOUT 11-BLK1 15-OSDEN 19-/VSYNC
4-/RESET 8-OSCIN 12-VC1 16-OSDR 20-/HSYNC
SIO pin1/2/3 are wired to CXP pin38/37/36. OSCIN is the RGB DAC CLK divided by
two (from H74 chip pin5). OSD/SYNC on pin15-20 connect to the MPEG1 decoder
chip.
No datasheet (but pinouts are same/similar as for BU6257AFV, documented in
several service manuals for tape decks with vcd player: HCD-V5500,
HCD-V8900/V8900AV, HCD-V909AV).
IC111 "Sony CXP10224-603R" (8bit SPC700 CPU) (64pin LQFP)
1-PB5=TP 17-PD5=/HCS 33-AVREF=VDD 49-PG5/SCK1=HC05.PF2
2-PB4=TP 18-PD4=TP 34-AVDD=VDD 50-PG4=/RST.OUT
3-PB3=HA3 19-PD3=TP 35-PF7/AN7=TP 51-PG3/TO=TP
4-PB2=HA2 20-PD2=TP 36-PF6/AN6=OSD.DTA 52-PA7=TP
5-PB1=HA1 21-PD1=TP 37-PF5/AN5=OSD./CS 53-PA6=TP
6-PB0=HA0 22-PD0=TP 38-PF4/AN4=OSD.CLK 54-PA5=TP
7-PC7=HD7 23-MP/TEST=GND 39-PF3/AN3=GND 55-PA4=TP
8-PC6=HD6 24-XTAL=12MHZ 40-PF2/AN2=GND 56-VPP=VDD
9-PC5=HD5 25-EXTAL=12MHZ 41-PF1/AN1=GND 57-VDD=VDD
10-PC4=HD4 26-VSS=GND 42-PF0/AN0=10KtoGND 58-VSS=GND
11-PC3=HD3 27-/RST=/RES 43-PE3/PWM1=TP 59-PA3=TP
12-PC2=HD2 28-/CS0=VDD 44-PE2/PWM0=TP 60-PA2=TP
13-PC1=HD1 29-SI0=CD.SQSO 45-PE1/INT2/EC=/VSYNC 61-PA1=TP
14-PC0=HD0 30-SO0=TP 46-PE0/INT0=/HIRQ 62-PA0=TP
15-PD7=HRW 31-/SCK0=CD.SQCK 47-PG7/SI1/INT1=HC05.PF1 63-PB7=TP
16-PD6=/HDT 32-AVSS=GND 48-PG6/SO1=HC05.PF0 64-PB6=TP
Pin 3-15,45,46,50 connect to MPEG1 decoder. Pin 36-38 to OSD. Pin 47-49 to
HC05.PortF. Pin 27 is /RESET from PSU. Pin 29,31 are SUBQ from CXD2510Q. The
"TP" pins connect to test points (but seem to be NC otherwise).
Pinouts are same as in CXP811P24 datasheet (which uses SPC700 instruction set;
that instruction set is also used by SNES sound CPU).
IC109 "TLC2932" (PLL) (14pin)
1-LOGIC_VDD=5V 5-FIN-B=HSYNC.PLL 9-PFD_INHIBIT=GND 13-BIAS
2-SELECT=5V 6-PFD_OUT 10-VCO_INHIBIT=GND 14-VCO_VDD=5V
3-VCO_OUT=RGB.DAC.CLK.PLL 7-LOGIC_GND=GND 11-VCO_GND=GND
4-FIN-A=FID/FHREF.PLL 8-NC 12-VCO_IN
Used to generate the CLK for the TDA chip (that is, the dotclk, paused during
VSYNC, or so?). The same CLK, divided by two, is also used as OSD.OSCIN.
IC112 "74HCT32" (Quad OR gate) (14pin)
1-FID/FHREF.MPEG 4-HSYNC.MPEG 8-(low) 11-RGB.DAC.CLK.TDA 7-GND
2-FID/FHREF.MPEG 5-HSYNC.MPEG 9-GNDed 12-RGB.DAC.CLK.PLL 14-VCC/5V
3-FID/FHREF.PLL 6-HSYNC.PLL 10-GNDed 13-RGB.DAC.CLK.PLL
Used to sharpen the output from the PLL chip, and to level-shift signals for
the two PLL inputs from 3.5V to 5V. The input-pairs for the OR gates are
shortcut with each other, so the chip isn't actually ORing anything.
IC113 "H74 7H" (single D-type flip-flop; OSD clock divider) (8 pin)
1-CLK 2-D 3-/Q 4-GND 5-Q 6-/RES 7-/SET 8-VCC
Used to divide the RGB DAC CLK by two. CLK comes from TDA.pin31, D and /Q are
shortcut with each other, /RES and /SET are wired to VDD, and Q goes to
OSD.OSCIN.
ICnnn "4053C" (Triple multiplexor, for Audio LRCK,BCLK,DATA) (16pin)
1-IN2B=DATA.VCD 5-IN3A=LRCK.SPU 9-SEL3=LRCK.SEL 13-IN1B=BCLK.VCD
2-IN2A=DATA.SPU 6-/OE=GNDed 10-SEL2=DATA.SEL 14-OUT1=BCLK.OUT
3-IN3B=LRCK.VCD 7-VEE=GNDed 11-SEL1=BCLK.SEL 15-OUT2=DATA.OUT
4-OUT3=LRCK.OUT 8-GND=GND 12-IN1A=BCLK.SPU 16-VDD=VDD/3.5V
The three SEL pins are wired to HC05.PortF3, the three SPU pins are wired via
10Kohm.
ICnnn "4053C" (Triple multiplexor, for Video FSC,CSYNC) (16pin)
1-IN2B=FSC.VCD 5-IN3A=CSYNC.PSX 9-SEL3=CSYNC.SEL 13-IN1B=GNDed
2-IN2A=FSC.PSX 6-/OE=GNDed 10-SEL2=FSC.SEL 14-OUT1=NCed
3-IN3B=CSYNC.VCD 7-VEE=GNDed 11-SEL1=DUMMY.SEL 15-OUT2=FSC.OUT
4-OUT3=CSYNC.OUT 8-GND=GND 12-IN1A=GNDed 16-VDD=VCC/5V
The three SEL pins are wired to HC05.PortF3, the two OUTx pins are wired via
2.2Kohm.
ICnnn "NJM2283" (Triple multiplexor, for Video R,G,B) (16pin)
1-IN1B=R.VCD 5-OUT2=G.OUT 9-IN3B=B.VCD 13-V=VCC/5V
2-SEL1=R.SEL 6-OUT3=B.OUT 10-GND3=81ohm/GND 14-IN2B=G.VCD
3-OUT1=R.OUT 7-SEL3=B.SEL 11-IN2A=G.PSX 15-GND1=GND
4-GND2=GND 8-IN3A=B.PSX 12-SEL2=G.SEL 16-IN1A=R.PSX
The three SEL pins are wired to HC05.PortF3, the six INxx pins wired through
resistors and capacitors, the three OUTx pins are wired through capacitors.Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:12 am
I could probably write something that extracts and then compiles them into STR format and injects them into a CHD with the player. Put a couple of them on archive or get them to me somewhow.
flynnsbit@gmail.com
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:39 pm
What model has the SCPH-5903 BIOS? Seems weird in 2022 this BIOS is still undumped, especially if it is the key to VCD support.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:03 pm
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:18 pm
Thank you for the offer, I have PSXVCD 2.2.01 this application can do batches too. It chnages them to bin / cue.flynnsbit wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:12 amI could probably write something that extracts and then compiles them into STR format and injects them into a CHD with the player. Put a couple of them on archive or get them to me somewhow.
flynnsbit@gmail.com
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:58 pm
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:19 pm
Right but the core can't play VCD's in any format. If you convert them to STR videos and then inject the STRplayer into the bin/chd then it might work...TwinX wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:18 pmThank you for the offer, I have PSXVCD 2.2.01 this application can do batches too. It chnages them to bin / cue.flynnsbit wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:12 amI could probably write something that extracts and then compiles them into STR format and injects them into a CHD with the player. Put a couple of them on archive or get them to me somewhow.
flynnsbit@gmail.com
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:09 pm
I think there's some confusion here. Apparently the OP has disc images of games in a format called VCD (Virtual CD). I also thought this was about Video CDs, but it seems that isn't the case.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:59 pm
OHHHH. Not Video CDs. The op has images that are in VCD "format". Yeah, I expect that will never be supported.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:45 am
This is correct, my sincere apologies for not making that clear.
I found it a very good format and used it on my PS2.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:57 am
fyi, the scph-5903 bios is dumped. I was able to find it with a little bit of searching online.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:29 pm
Wait, what? I also read somewhere that is was dumped two or three years ago but wan't able to find the rom. I think you might send me a PM to talk about pr0n and PSX technics. Just asking for a friendStupid Dufus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:57 am fyi, the scph-5903 bios is dumped. I was able to find it with a little bit of searching online.
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:09 pm
Oh, I didn't know it was dumped, when I looked the other week I just found notes saying it was still undumped. Does this pave the way for Video CD support or would it require more chips added to the already near full PS1 core?
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:49 am
The 5903 bios is 1,024 kb versus the 512kb of the other bios files.
CRC32: 446ec5b2
MD5: 81328b966e6dcf7ea1e32e55e1c104bb
From what I read, the bios checks to see if the disc is a properly pressed PS1 disc, and if not, then it loads the VCD playback functionality. The 5903 does have a daughterboard that assists with vcd playback. Maybe the actual mpeg decoding?
CRC32: 446ec5b2
MD5: 81328b966e6dcf7ea1e32e55e1c104bb
From what I read, the bios checks to see if the disc is a properly pressed PS1 disc, and if not, then it loads the VCD playback functionality. The 5903 does have a daughterboard that assists with vcd playback. Maybe the actual mpeg decoding?
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:44 am
That would make sense, a bit like having an inbuild MPEG1 playing card. Is there any information on, or schematic, of this daughter board and what chips are on it?
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:41 am
This thread at psxdev has some of that info: http://www.psxdev.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 3&start=20
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:28 pm
Oh, nice, lots of info in there.
"So the VCD stuff is really very-self-contained, all the joypad button input and OSD video output is handled in the CXP chip. That's also making it fairly impossible to emulate the thing (unless the CXP firmware (and OSD character set) were dumped, too). "
Does anyone know if the OSD character set has also been dumped?
"So the VCD stuff is really very-self-contained, all the joypad button input and OSD video output is handled in the CXP chip. That's also making it fairly impossible to emulate the thing (unless the CXP firmware (and OSD character set) were dumped, too). "
Does anyone know if the OSD character set has also been dumped?
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:50 pm
Personally I converted all my bin/cue images to CHD, which is fully supported by the PSX core.. Usually reduces the size of the images by 40-50%
Re: .VCD files
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:02 am
Found the BIOS image, that one was tricky because the file name wasn't the one I was looking for. It's in archive.org, you can find it by searching for redump playstation bios, and can be distinguished from the others by the file size, which is about 390K compressed (1MB uncompressed as already noted).
This is just for personal preservation, note that it won't run on MiSTer.
This is just for personal preservation, note that it won't run on MiSTer.